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09/17/2014 2:14 PM | 107ist Admin (Administrator)

—by Garrett Dittfurth

Hi there,

Personal note to everyone out there with the moral outrage on social media over the fact the Timbers Army was chanting PTFC during the Honduras national anthem. Normally I wouldn't bother but there is a really large portion of you out there with moral outrage. I just wanted to make some things pretty clear.

#1 The Timbers FO played a recorded version of the Honduras national anthem. Here it is so you can hear what they played. It's not exactly the 1812 Overture finale. It is a beautiful and quiet composition. I sat in section 96 over on the other side of the field from the Timbers Army for this match. It wasn't played loudly. Even if they had the volume way up from normal it just isn't going to come in at high levels.

#2 At a regular match the teams come out and stand for the national anthems. They didn't do that for this. When you can't hear announcements, like in the north end of the stadium because the crowd noise is too loud, it makes it a little tough to know what is going on.

#3 Did you know they turn the speakers off in the North End of the stadium where the Timbers Army is? That's because nobody in the North End needs piped in noise to create atmosphere. They were creating the atmosphere themselves. That's why they were chanting PTFC well before the Honduras national anthem and only quieted down when they heard something they recognized. No disrespect was meant. NOBODY HEARD IT BEING ANNOUNCED.

#4 I respect the national anthem of the United States as much as I respect the national anthem of Bulgaria or the Federated States of Micronesia. I also respect people that don't have respect for that. They don't have to rise for the national anthem, take their hats off or put their hands over their hearts. We live in a free country, folks. If you think that stuff is required I hear North Korea will take you in.

#5 Please get over it. The Timbers Army would have shut up had they known what was going on. There are bigger things to let your moral outrage loose on via social media. The fact that 4,500 people were chanting their brains out and didn't hear an announcement that was made when they don't have sound turned on in their section at a time that was out of the ordinary isn't a good reason to rage yourself to death on twitter about how there is a lack of class and disrespect.

Celebrate a great home win in our little club's MLS history like the rest of us. We're looking good to advance in the group stage with this win. If we pummel Alpha United next Tuesday it will be even an even better chance that might make that trip to Tegucigalpa for the rematch against CD Olimpia a snoozer rather than worrying about advancing.

Comments

  • 08/29/2016 9:10 PM | 107ist Admin (Administrator)
    Roger Anthony says:
    Wednesday, September 17, 2014 at 12:18 pm

    Explanation accepted. But are we doing something so we won’t be talking about this next week?
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  • 08/29/2016 9:11 PM | 107ist Admin (Administrator)
    stef.nove says:
    Wednesday, September 17, 2014 at 2:04 pm

    @Roger Anthony

    …what needs to be done? it’s an absolute non-issue and the only people likely to be talking about it next week are people who won’t be bothered to take in this weekend’s (likely to be excellent) match.
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  • 08/29/2016 9:11 PM | 107ist Admin (Administrator)
    Garrett Dittfurth says:
    Wednesday, September 17, 2014 at 2:06 pm

    @Roger Anthony

    Beyond the FO putting, SHUT UP we’re playing the Honduras national anthem I’m not sure anything could have been done. Are people supposed to sit around in silence until the DJ decides to play the national anthem?
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  • 08/29/2016 9:11 PM | 107ist Admin (Administrator)
    Mike Pacific says:
    Wednesday, September 17, 2014 at 2:38 pm

    @Garrett Dittfurth

    Just asked the FO Twitter account to give us a cue next week. Unless you have a contact at the FO I can email or call. Stupid for them to not give us a heads up.
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  • 08/29/2016 9:12 PM | 107ist Admin (Administrator)
    Gary says:
    Wednesday, September 17, 2014 at 2:45 pm

    @Garrett Dittfurth

    I think that’s exactly what should be done. Well, not in so many words. Simply putting up a Honduras flag on the screen would probably do the trick.
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  • 08/29/2016 9:12 PM | 107ist Admin (Administrator)
    Roger Anthony says:
    Wednesday, September 17, 2014 at 3:28 pm

    @Gary

    Two excellent suggestions.
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  • 08/29/2016 9:12 PM | 107ist Admin (Administrator)
    Roger Anthony says:
    Wednesday, September 17, 2014 at 3:31 pm

    @Gary

    Well, actually we’d want to put the Guyanaese flag on the screen, but yeah.
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  • 08/29/2016 9:13 PM | 107ist Admin (Administrator)
    Mike Pacific says:
    Wednesday, September 17, 2014 at 1:46 pm

    Garrett hates Honduras, America (and therefore freedom), and the Timbers.
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  • 08/29/2016 9:13 PM | 107ist Admin (Administrator)
    Mike Pacific says:
    Wednesday, September 17, 2014 at 3:24 pm

    Because I haven’t posted enough comments already, just an FYI that I emailed/called my STH rep and he said the FO is aware of the issue, and it’ll be fixed for next Tuesday. I asked for more details, but he doesn’t know and will be asking around. I’ll be following up again with him for answers.
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  • 08/29/2016 9:13 PM | 107ist Admin (Administrator)
    Matt Newell-Ching says:
    Wednesday, September 17, 2014 at 3:49 pm

    @Mike Pacific

    Great update, Mike. I don’t want this issue to become bigger than it is – I just want it fixed, and glad to know that’s happening. I mostly felt bad for the Honduran supporters that came out. If I’m in they’re shoes during the anthem, without this context, I’m probably thinking that the TA is a bunch of jingoistic a-holes (which is clearly not the case). I think it’s pretty cool that there are lots of TA folks that wanted to fix this in the name of sportsmanship and respect. Cheers.
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  • 08/29/2016 9:14 PM | 107ist Admin (Administrator)
    Jeffrey Fuller says:
    Wednesday, September 17, 2014 at 6:02 pm

    We were wondering about this at the game but then decided it was a non-issue since the Honduran fans were also chanting and yelling during their anthem. We were sitting in section 220 near the visiting section.
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  • 08/29/2016 9:14 PM | 107ist Admin (Administrator)
    Bob Flores says:
    Wednesday, September 17, 2014 at 8:38 pm

    What my family and I thought was odd there were no colors marched out. We just so happen to look out on the field and saw the young lady begin singing the National Anthem with no teams or any other human? There was some screw up but where it lies we may never know. We did not hear anything much less the Honduran National Anthem played over speakers. Very odd I will say.
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  • 08/29/2016 9:14 PM | 107ist Admin (Administrator)
    Bill B says:
    Thursday, September 18, 2014 at 7:59 am

    They played the Honduran national anthem? Really in section 220 we had no idea and the whole thing was weird without the teams and the USA anthem played solo. On another note, you seem to think that if we clobber Alpha then we don’t need to worry about advancing but if we lose by more than two goals at Olimpia the tiebreaker is head-to-head goal difference not group goal difference. What we do against Alpha doesn’t matter as long as we win and I have watched to many CONCACAF MLS teams go down and take a thrashing in these away games to be easily comfortable.
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  • 08/29/2016 9:15 PM | 107ist Admin (Administrator)
    Chris B says:
    Monday, September 29, 2014 at 4:57 pm

    The Timbers game versus Honduras last week was the first game my wife and I had ever been to and we never heard the anthem either. I do have one question though. What’s with the black and white flag that was getting waved around after the goals? I can’t find it on any of the Timbers websites and it looked like an ISIS flag!
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  • 08/29/2016 9:15 PM | 107ist Admin (Administrator)
    Garrett Dittfurth says:
    Monday, September 29, 2014 at 5:07 pm

    @Chris B

    ISIS? HAHAHAHAHHA. Take a closer look. It’s the all seeing eye surrounded by laurels.
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  • 08/29/2016 9:16 PM | 107ist Admin (Administrator)
    Chris B says:
    Thursday, October 2, 2014 at 9:16 pm

    @Garrett Dittfurth

    Where is photo of this flag and why isn’t on the Army page if it is symbolic of something important?
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