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ISC Releases Open Letter to Don Garber

03/15/2012 9:46 PM | 107ist Admin (Administrator)

—by Garrett Dittfurth


March 15, 2012

Commissioner Garber,

We are writing on behalf of the Independent Supporters Council, a group made up of twenty-seven American and Canadian supporters groups, including supporters from almost every team in Major League Soccer. Our mission is to advocate for fair treatment of home and away supporters at all levels of American and Canadian soccer.

Our members and supporters across the league are alarmed by the recent punishment handed down by the league office to supporters groups of the Houston Dynamo, including ISC member the Texian Army. We, representing supporters from across the league, support the Texian Army's official response to this matter and ask that the league meet with the Texian Army and the other Houston supporters' groups to review this unnecessarily harsh action.

We have no issue with the league taking individual action against individual fans who violate stadium policy at any league stadium. As we understand it, there have already been individual bans issued to some Dynamo supporters responsible for the problems at the MLS Cup. We do not take issue with the individual bans. But we object to the league taking retaliatory action that serves only to harm supporters' culture in Houston. The statement from MLS read “As of March 1, Dynamo traveling supporters will not be permitted to utilize items listed as Supporter Group Exemptions in the MLS Prohibited Items policy (e.g. flags, banners, confetti, drums).”

Banning flags and drums will not stop individual fans from smuggling smoke into the stadium or throwing prohibited items on the field. Cutting off safe, legal avenues of support does not punish the flashlight throwers. Instead it punishes supporters who spend their own time and money making flags and banners, and creating the atmosphere that the league loves to promote. Such broad-based punishments do not address the troublemakers. All this action does is punish the majority of supporters who show the passion and dedication you claim to value.

Furthermore, the Houston away supporters' section at the 2011 MLS Cup was a supporters' section in name only; it was a mixed group of fans, including both members of supporters groups and unaffiliated fans. It is one thing to ask the supporters to police themselves; it is not reasonable to ask them to police every Dynamo fan, especially on a trip where they were not given the opportunity to organize or screen the attendees.

We ask that the League:

1. Does not hold supporters groups responsible for the actions of unaffiliated fans. Hold the individuals who behaved poorly accountable without punishing good supporters groups.

2. When supporters do travel, take attacks on them as seriously as you do incidents involving them. Traveling fans are regularly treated to racist chants and thrown items, not from other supporters' groups, but from other fans in the stadium. They do not receive support or follow-up from security or the front office at these stadiums. This does more to contribute to ugly incidents like we saw at the MLS Cup than any number of flags or banners.

3. If the league intends to punish supporters for incidents at games, work directly with the leadership of the affected supporters' group first and give them an opportunity to appeal, rather than simply announcing an open-ended ban.

Banning flags, banners, and drums will do nothing to further the goal we both share: creating the best possible atmosphere in every American and Canadian stadium. No amount of heavy-handed bans and restrictive security measures will stop someone from throwing something on the field. That is an element that we must work together to eliminate. Work with us, not against us. Only by working with your supporters, instead of against them, will we build a relationship of mutual trust & respect and accomplish our common goals.

Sincerely,

The Independent Supporters Council

Comments

  • 07/14/2016 9:22 PM | 107ist Admin (Administrator)
    Ryan Pollard says:
    Thursday, March 15, 2012 at 1:44 pm

    Here here.
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  • 07/14/2016 9:22 PM | 107ist Admin (Administrator)
    Janet Potter says:
    Thursday, March 15, 2012 at 2:01 pm

    Well said – Please do understand that the majority of “we supporters” are not the people to cause this type of issue in the first place. Thanks for the great letter to Garber!
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  • 07/14/2016 9:23 PM | 107ist Admin (Administrator)
    Galen Fisher says:
    Thursday, March 15, 2012 at 9:16 pm

    Well stated; there is a difference between a fan and a supporter, just as there is a difference between an individual and a group. In the case of any transgression it is always best to find that one person or those persons who cross the bounds of celebration of their team or anger at an opponent and punish them directly rather than punish the group to which they belong or the team whom they support as a group. By enforcing wide spread sanctions on any group due to the actions of one or a few offenders the league does nothing but harm to the broader fan-base of any given team and its supporters and fans, which will only cost that team and the league income through ticket sales and sponsorships in the long run. None of us want this.
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  • 07/14/2016 9:23 PM | 107ist Admin (Administrator)
    Jonathan Blackburn says:
    Friday, March 16, 2012 at 5:48 am

    A very well written and cogent argument.

    Unfortunately, am I the only one who thinks it will fall on deaf ears? Even if the league were to mandate its teams to act on your behalf, who’s to stop the ten-a-penny thugs employed as stadium security to not act like coked-up traffic wardens?
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  • 07/14/2016 9:24 PM | 107ist Admin (Administrator)
    neoxamerika says:
    Friday, March 16, 2012 at 12:15 pm

    I was at the MLS cup last year right behind the dynamo supporters. I can tell you there were more than just one incident of throwing shit on the pitch. While I’m not a fan of Beckham and Donovan, noone deserves to have a half dozen bottles thrown at them during a corner kick. Not to mention all the trash dumped over the side of the railing. If they did this at JW there would be hell to pay from the TA.

    The Angel City Brigade was not much better. Every goal they doused their own goal with streamers. Dedicated people were running out constantly to clean it up.

    As for the Houston section being a supporters section in name only…holy shit really? That ENTIRE section was orange. That’s no exaggeration. They brought banners, flags, drums, everything.

    While I agree sanctioning an entire group for the actions of the few is harsh, I would be embarrassed if the TA acted like they did in the final moments of the cup and would expect some sort of reprisal.
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  • 07/14/2016 9:24 PM | 107ist Admin (Administrator)
    Seth Hunt says:
    Saturday, March 17, 2012 at 12:38 pm

    What they are saying that while there was a section full of Houston fans, not everyone in that section was a member of a Houston supporters group. Nobody is defending those who threw things on the pitch and those individuals should be punished. However it’s not fair to sanction the supporters group because of someone who doesn’t belong to their group.
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  • 07/14/2016 9:25 PM | 107ist Admin (Administrator)
    Dennis Bishop says:
    Monday, March 19, 2012 at 1:24 pm

    Seth, I have to agree with what I think neoxamerika is saying because I find it hard to believe that anyone would travel 1500 miles, drop upwards of $100 on a ticket(s), sit in an ocean of orange, and bring smoke bombs into the stadium without being associated with the supporters group they were sitting with. I doubt and average fan (read JWF east or west flank fan) would do that.

    The ISC is 100% correct that we as a whole cannot be blamed for the actions of a few. I would like to ask about the letter the MLS front office sent out. Two previous incidents (KC and Dallas) as well as the final were indicated by MLS as deciding factors in their decision. Were the Houston supporters warned after the two earlier infractions? If the supporters were warned it paints a different picture but if they were not warned it sounds more like a DOUBLE SECRET PROBATION and starts to head in a very bad direction.

    The one thing that I feel was missing in the letter was maybe having actions against supporter groups be listed on their respective league sites. If we as supporters run the risk of punishment I think its only fair that the league(s) be completely transparent when sanctioning or warning of any possible sanctioning. I keep thinking on the MLS letter and if the first two alleged issues were posted on an official site it may have pushed the group that traveled to LA to be proactive in the section preventing idiots from ruining the fun for everyone. Does the Texian Army have representatives like the TA have 107ist? How many SGs have an Away travel committee like we have within the 107ist? We should all be thankful that we have ISC taking this head-on. The fans are making soccer legitimate in the US and Canada make sure the league(s) know that.

    I know it is nowhere near the same thing but when I read the ISC letter I kept hearing this voice over. “All they got from Paulie was protection from other guys looking to rip them off. That’s what it’s all about. That’s what the FBI can never understand – that what Paulie and the organization offer is protection for the kinds of guys who can’t go to the cops. They’re like the police department for wiseguys.”
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