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A Bunch of Cotton Headed Ninny Mugginses!

07/16/2014 3:11 PM | 107ist Admin (Administrator)

Apparently the ad wizards over at The Oregonian saw another reminder about their dying industry and needed some click bait to get web traffic up.

This "article" summarizes the recent hullabaloo around something a guest columnist from Clownville posted to The O's site.

This is nothing new. Recall, if you will, this gem from 2009. (Apologies for linking to a Canzano piece, but honestly...he's not the problem here.)

The Timbers Army has been dealing with more than its fair share of Flanders families in recent memory, and will likely continue to do so over the foreseeable future.

As a parent of a 1-year-old girl, I finally feel justified in engaging with this topic. I stand within the parent outpost known as Del Boca Vista (a.k.a. section 208) of the North End at Timbers matches. When I'm able to make it (read: when the kid allows) to a match, I'm surrounded by other parents, many of whom bring their kids along. All of these kids range from infant to teenagers.

We bring our kids because we feel 100% comfortable doing so. We feel that way because we are among friends and professionals who know how to conduct themselves accordingly. It's the rare individual who makes an arse of him/herself. If that happens, they are asked to leave before security even steps in. We police our own, and we're better for it.

When it comes to curse words, I hate to break it to Mr. Mancini, but it's nothing your kids haven't already heard. I don't know your kids, but I'm willing to bet a large amount of my annual income on them having heard a curse word in their short time on this earth. It's a fact of life. It's YOUR job as the parent to explain to them the reason why you may not want them repeating such words.

I try not to curse around my kid. But I'm not so ignorant to think she'll never hear me curse, or that she'll be a teenager in high school and not use those words herself. I'll be proud if she doesn't use them, but I won't condemn her if she does. They can be a crutch, used for cheap laughs. Jerry Seinfeld has a great reason behind why he doesn't curse on stage. (Warning: this clip has cursing in it.)

My approach will be to actually have a conversation with her, explaining why curse words are cheap, and that she will sound smarter without using them. Then, when she's an adult, we'll go to a Seth Rogen film festival and LOLZ all over this scene from 'Observe and Report.' (Warning: that 1:51 clip has more cursing in it than all of 'Scarface.')

Bad words happen. I'm not proud of using them, but it's who I am. You can decide to like me because of it, or not. If not, you're free to carry on about your business.

Mr. Mancini, nobody held a gun to your head forcing you to take some kids to Starfire last week. (Lord knows that's what it would take to get me back there.) If you're not dad enough to talk to your kids about what they just heard, perhaps you should've just gone to church that night. Nothing scandalous ever happens there.

This is an opinion piece and does not necessarily reflect the opinion of the 107ist or the TA.


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  • 08/29/2016 9:50 PM | 107ist Admin (Administrator)
    Caedmon says:
    Thursday, July 17, 2014 at 1:05 am

    I was in the front, up against the rail, of the TA section at the Starfire. The kids walking past we’re doing a better job of giving it back to us than the parents. I especially liked the kid who yelled up, in response to “we eat children,” “we eat parents.”
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  • 08/29/2016 9:50 PM | 107ist Admin (Administrator)
    Andrew Brawley says:
    Thursday, July 17, 2014 at 7:16 am

    @Caedmon

    Praying I can raise my daughter to be that cool. Job well done.
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  • 08/29/2016 9:51 PM | 107ist Admin (Administrator)
    Robert Wagner says:
    Thursday, July 17, 2014 at 5:16 am

    Well said.

    Even if it was said by a guy who censors the swears in his own tweets.
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  • 08/29/2016 9:51 PM | 107ist Admin (Administrator)
    Andrew Brawley says:
    Thursday, July 17, 2014 at 7:12 am

    @Robert Wagner

    F*ckin sh*t right I do…in my protected account, too!
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  • 08/29/2016 9:51 PM | 107ist Admin (Administrator)
    J.W. says:
    Thursday, July 17, 2014 at 5:31 am

    I know I’ll receive the ire of fellow TA members but I, for one, do not like the Army as a whole engaging in a “F*ck Seattle” chant, just as I hate the visiting Sounders fans raising a middle finger to our Providence Park home pitch. Cursing happens, especially at a Derby match. But, when it moves to a Army-wide chant, it’s a poor reflection on the fan culture we’ve built here in Portland.
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  • 08/29/2016 9:52 PM | 107ist Admin (Administrator)
    Andrew Brawley says:
    Thursday, July 17, 2014 at 7:13 am

    @J.W.

    J.W., I couldn’t agree with you any more. The “F*ck Seattle” element in “Hey Portland Timbers” is one of the stupidest things to arise during my tenure in the North End. Not sure how it got there, but it really should be stopped.
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  • 08/29/2016 9:52 PM | 107ist Admin (Administrator)
    Chad Casady says:
    Thursday, July 17, 2014 at 8:00 am

    @Andrew Brawley

    I love the mock ire at Seattle, and the clever and off-color chants that have nothing whatsoever to do with the game (“We’ve got bigger d**ks than you…”). But I really hate the “F— Seattle” chant. I don’t hate it because of the F-word. I hate it because it’s unoriginal and lame. When there’s no creativity in a chant, then all you hear is the swearing, and leaves me shaking my head. My 11-year-old agrees and adds, “That one’s just plain stupid.”

    I also agree with J.W., flipping off our own pitch is silly.
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  • 08/29/2016 9:53 PM | 107ist Admin (Administrator)
    Paul Manson says:
    Saturday, July 19, 2014 at 11:33 am

    My now seven year old has been coming to games for two seasons in 202. We have a conversation about “stadium words” and how they stay in the park. It works – some games are nasty. I’m less likely to bring her to a 8:00 pm Cascadia match. One thing I love is that kids in the 200s can get the tourists to sing. When a seven year old is twice a loud as you and knows the words it means you gotta step up. Seattle might just need to pick a new hobby.
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  • 08/29/2016 9:53 PM | 107ist Admin (Administrator)
    Erik Ipsen says:
    Monday, July 21, 2014 at 10:28 am

    We too sit in Del Boca Vista and my 9 yo and 6 yo have heard more than their share of swear words over the past 4 years (although my kids still think we are “fuzzy dynamite”). Like Paul, my kids know there are “stadium words” that they are going to hear at a game in higher frequency than they will elsewhere, and are also quick to point out that “dad uses those words too” (guilty). However, despite being immersed in profanity on a regular basis, I have NEVER heard them bust these words out on their own. Thus, I simply don’t buy the argument from Jim “will someone think of the children” Mancini that our kids are somehow spoiled from hearing curse words. That said, based on the number of middle fingers I received from young Flounders fans departing (early, mind you) the recent game up in Shittle (whoops), maybe those little $#@!%bags are ruined…
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