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TA Merch, Profits, and Trademarks: A Polite Request

09/26/2014 2:12 PM | 107ist Admin (Administrator)

For many years, the merchandise sold by members of the Timbers Army has given us a way to show our pride in our club while elevating what our club brings to the community. The profits earned have gone not into a person’s or corporation’s bank account but back into our community. By community, I mean both our game day operations and our charitable efforts. Merchandise pays for smoke, paint, fabric, drums, trumpets, and has also made our community outreach activities like Operation Pitch Invasion, Harper’s Playground, and the Jefferson HS Field renovation possible. All that is not possible without our merch sales

By profits, we’re talking about around a third of the sale price, or $5 from a $15 T-shirt. The rest of the $15 example goes to the cost of goods and the printing of the design. The artist who creates the design donates their work. The people stocking, selling, and tracking the merchandise all donate their time. This model is how we are able to do such amazing work in the stadium and in our community.

Think of what the TA has done over the last decade. Most of that was made possible in part by our merch sales, whether by No Pity Originals or by countless others who have designed and sold merch individually and donated those profits either to our game day activities or to a charity.

So, you have a great idea for merch to be sold to the TA? Awesome. If it’s good, it will sell. If it’s bad, you’ll learn. But please sell it while honoring the traditions that have made the TA the force that we are today. Ask yourself the following questions:

1. Does the profit ($ earned after purchase of blank and printing) go back into the Timbers Army’s game day work or charitable work? If not, please consider changing that. When you keep profits made off of the TA for yourself, you lessen the amount of good the TA $ can do in our community or for our club. You’re an artist who deserves to be paid for their work? Well, OK, but other artists donate their work to make all that we do possible. What would happen if they all took the attitude of needing to be paid? Most of the good things you see the TA doing would cease to exist. Smoke? Tifo? Soccer pitches? Yes, that all goes away. Please consider making your profits elsewhere and using your Timbers love to benefit our community and TA support. It's not personal. Truly. Yes YOU may be a great person with good intentions but for every you, there is some Merch pirate intent on making a TA mouse pad and charging $25 for it.

2. Are you violating any trademarks? The FO/MLS owns Timbers, Thorns and any and all forms of their crest starting in 1975. If you use these things, you’re putting yourself at legal risk that’s probably not worth it. It also puts stress on the rest of the TA as it provokes stricter attention from their attorneys. No Pity, Axes and Rose, No Pity Originals, TA Crest, Cascadia Cup are owned by the 107ist on behalf of the Timbers Army. The 107ist protects these so that they can be used to benefit our club and community exclusively, rather than to line the pockets of anyone who wants to make a buck off of your passion.

Creative ideas from individuals are what make the Timbers Army a vibrant and interesting place to be. They’re also what allow us to do the amazing work that we do both inside and outside of the stadium. We ask that you honor this and use your brilliant ideas to uphold the traditions we hold dear. If you want to sell merch individually and not connect it to the 107ist, no problem! Just please honor the same traditions the 107ist does. They are what has made and will make the TA possible.

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  • 08/15/2016 9:46 PM | 107ist Admin (Administrator)
    Sherrilynn "Sheba" Rawson says:
    Saturday, September 27, 2014 at 7:56 am

    Rachel,

    Thank you for a thought-provoking and difficult post. I agree wholeheartedly with your basic point. It is a challenging conversation to have, but I think it is an important one. I appreciate your willingness to bring it to the table.
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  • 08/15/2016 9:46 PM | 107ist Admin (Administrator)
    BJ Clark says:
    Saturday, September 27, 2014 at 11:07 am

    That’s super great you donate the profits of your tshirts and I’ll keep that in mind when I make purchase decisions but it’s not the only way and that’s ok too.
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  • 08/15/2016 9:46 PM | 107ist Admin (Administrator)
    Caterjunes says:
    Sunday, September 28, 2014 at 3:21 pm

    This discussion has blown up on Twitter over the last day and a half, and I’ve largely stayed out of it. But noting the volume of response this has received in social media, I wanted to be an active participant.
    Something that is repeatedly brought up is how a person is a good guy/is supporting his family/is a friend. These things are all fine and good, but completely separate and non-relevant issues. I’m willing to bet that most scalpers are fairly decent people. I’m also guessing that they scalp tickets to support their family. But that doesn’t mean we, as the TA culture, condone it, or let it go unnoticed.
    In terms of fandom, Rusted Traveler is tops. He loves the Timbers and the TA. He’s also well loved by many in the TA. But there are plenty of others who are equally well loved, and have produced many designs of various TA-related ephemera that have reaped no return. None. Was the opportunity there for Griz to markup everything he’s produced over the last x-number of years? Absolutely. Did he? No.
    The reason is because that is not a part of the ethos – a fundamental norm, within the TA culture. It just isn’t.
    No one is saying Rusted Traveler shouldn’t make cool stuff. If anything, he should make more cool stuff. Just don’t make money off of it. That’s it.
    We live in a capitalist society, certainly. But within or culture, we don’t support it. TA gear is for TA to don in support of this club, and generate dollars to help offset the cost of all things TA-related, tifo/smoke/flags/high school uniforms/playground construction/etc. TA gear is not – and should not – be produced for the sake of someone making a living. It’s just not how it works.
    Reading so much of the discussion over the last two days, I know I’m in the minority. And people are more than happy to say this is an OG vs n00b issue, held up by a mysterious 107ist Illuminati. I don’t believe that sentiment is accurate. By no means am I OG – I’m only pre-MLS TA by a matter of months. But the ethos, the ideals of this group of people I have made a significant part of my life, those pre-date all but 12 of us.
    That’s the reality. Those are the traditions. These are the principals by which our culture was built and should continue to be adhered.

    In: Team, Town, Timbers Army
    Out: Racism, Sexism, Homophobia, Profiteering
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  • 08/15/2016 9:46 PM | 107ist Admin (Administrator)
    Jeremy says:
    Monday, September 29, 2014 at 1:01 pm

    I love all the people wrapping themselves in the flag of persecution by the great 107ist Illuminati. Nobody is stopping you from making your awesome or crappy t-shirt. Nobody. The only request is don’t be a dick and personally profit. And guess what? If you want to be a dick and personally profit, well there isn’t a whole lot people can do about that unless you are using protected marks. So really, the choice is yours and that is all Rachel is saying here.

    So quit it with the false persecution nonsense. The “I stand with X”. People are purposefully conflating a simple message to suit their own narrative.
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