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European Atmosphere = Lazy Reporting.

06/24/2011 5:53 PM | 107ist Admin (Administrator)

—by Garrett Dittfurth

At first I thought that saying Portland had a European atmosphere at Timbers games it was sort of complimentary. I guess it is in a way. In reality in speaks to the misinformation of the media covering soccer in this country. Most of the non soccer media holds the English Premier League on a pedestal and from there falls La Liga, Serie A, Bundesliga, Ligue 1, and the rest falls out somewhere from there. In my own personal opinion the EPL is a very good league. Bundesling and Ligue 1 offer far more entertaining soccer than the EPL and Serie A is boring beyond belief. The South American leagues are really entertaining as well they're just harder to find on a TV dial. I'm not even going to start on the Scottish second division because I don't want you to stop reading now out of sheer boredom.

Here's the thing. The Wall Street Journal wrote an article about soccer in the Northwest. Hannah Karp took every stereotype of the Northwest and made it part of her story even to the point of including one of the rare dread-locked Timbers Army members as her main picture to introduce her woefully misinformed article. I'm going to attempt to not get riled up that she doesn't even know the difference between a hipster and a hippie and get back to my point. OK I can't stop myself. Hannah, we have a website. You can contact us. Next time you want to write an article stereotyping people in Portland and Seattle I'll be happy to sit down with you and make sure you don't write another uninformed piece to run to a national audience where you mistake hippies for hipsters or do people in New York not know the difference? Are your offices located so far from Williamsburg you've never seen an actual hipster in person? Don't get me wrong. I just take issue a writer from the Wall Street Journal focusing on a stereotype of the Northwest and running with it to reinforce to their readership that the Pacific Northwest is still a provincial place full of drunks who live in a constant state of inconsequential argument about meth.

Should I really even start in on Hannah's writing about the dumb internet debates where Seattle calls us meth heads and someone from Portland insults people from Seattle for their love of boating? Wait...where the hell did that even come from? I've been in Portland 14 years and never once heard someone insult Seattle because they like boating. I don't even know if that's true. I went boating two weeks ago. Am I like a Seattleite now? Thanks for the new info, Hannah. I'm now writing a chant about Seattle's love of boating for our July 10th meeting.

Back on point. This European thing. Several years ago I probably would have welcomed it. We were much smaller then. Having one thousand people singing and chanting would have been great and comparing it would have been easy. Here's the thing. We do not create a European atmosphere. In the latest New York Times article we have once again been compared to that. I appreciate the coverage of soccer culture in the U.S. but I'm getting irked on one thing that seems to be common in their articles.

What is happening here and yes in Seattle and Philidelphia and Toronto isn't European. It's American. North American to be really honest. We have taken elements of English support, Serbian support, Italian support, Spanish support and melded it with Bolivian support, Mexican support, Brazilian support, and yes even native United States and Canadian support. What we are creating is not European. It is definitely influenced by Europe and a lot of other countries but it is decidedly North American.

I am not going to try and speak to what is going in Seattle as they are creating something that is unique to their town and decidedly not Portland. What I can say about Portland might be best quoted from a statement from a friend of mine made.

"I would go a step further, I think is uniquely Portland. "American" is too broad. The fan culture we have developed here is very distinct from that of Chicago, DC etc, and I would argue distinct from our Cascadian rivals. Its unique to Portland. I can see a lot of European (continental not British Isles) influence, (tifo, Eastern European style chants, but also the South American elements of the drums, trumpets etc.) I would argue that it is an atmosphere unique in the US and Canada, therefore not "American," or "Cascadian" but "Portlandian."

Here's the deal. Soccer in North America isn't trying to copy anymore. We don't need to have our stands filled with fake London casuals in their latest Puma gear for legitimacy. We have our own thing. Sure there is some influence from England. There is also influence from South America, Eastern Europe, and Italy. Thanks for leading the way. So a note to journalists writing in the future. Please quit comparing us to Europe. It's not Europe. We've got something different. North America is a melting pot and so are the soccer supporters in this part of the world. What happens in Portland is no more European than what happens in the student section at University of Michigan hockey games or Utah State University or are they just really European too?

I wonder if Dirk Nowitzki goes back to Germany to play for the German national team and talks about how the crowd acted so American?

This is an opinion piece and does not necessarily reflect the opinion of the 107ist or the TA.


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  • 07/09/2016 3:47 PM | 107ist Admin (Administrator)
    Randy Wilson says:
    Friday, June 24, 2011 at 1:08 pm

    100% agree. Even just the assumption by the American media that the EPL is somehow the mecha of global football is lazy. Have they watched an EPL game? There’s some singing. Big games get loud. But there’s mostly sitting and golf clapping, and never any TIFO.
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  • 07/09/2016 3:47 PM | 107ist Admin (Administrator)
    Nels Hesseldahl says:
    Friday, June 24, 2011 at 1:34 pm

    Well done sir. I think we need to ban the word European from our own descriptions to friends and family as well. As you stated, that description really sells us short.
    One positive thing about the large distance between MLS cities is that fan groups can all develop their own way of doing things without too much influence from another place. I hope we can use to this to our advantage and really develop a unique atmosphere/experience in every stadium.
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  • 07/09/2016 3:48 PM | 107ist Admin (Administrator)
    Steven says:
    Friday, June 24, 2011 at 1:34 pm

    There’s much more passion in the Championship and below. I love the FA Cup games where a third or fourth tier team is playing way above their heads. Those games have the sound of Portland games.
    As far as the articles referenced, giddy and visceral “reporting”, and yes, the media do struggle with what to compare Portland to – we aren’t “trying” – we’ve arrived at something that is hard to describe with little if any company. I’m enjoying it. Three years from now there may be an article somewhere by an informed reporter that uses the term “a Portland-like atmosphere”.
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  • 07/09/2016 3:48 PM | 107ist Admin (Administrator)
    Jen says:
    Friday, June 24, 2011 at 3:06 pm

    The Wall Street Journal article was terrible. The NY Times article was good. It barely mentioned the European thing so I’d rather just focus on the positive of a good article about Portland and about the Timbers. If we complain about every little thing we’re going to look like whiners. And Timbers aren’t whiners!
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  • 07/09/2016 3:48 PM | 107ist Admin (Administrator)
    Garrett Dittfurth says:
    Friday, June 24, 2011 at 3:14 pm

    This was written a while ago and just hadn’t posted yet. A quick edit was made last night to include the NYT piece since it’s the 4,569th (I made that number up) article to say how “European” Portland is. The NYT article is really good…just wish they would quit lazily saying we’re just like Europe and start saying they’re doing it just like Portland.
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  • 07/09/2016 3:49 PM | 107ist Admin (Administrator)
    Nando says:
    Friday, June 24, 2011 at 3:28 pm

    I just want to take all the credit for adding the Eastern European influence in the terraces.
    Its not the latest Puma but the latest Sergio Tacchini wear that is important.
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  • 07/09/2016 3:49 PM | 107ist Admin (Administrator)
    Garrett Dittfurth says:
    Saturday, June 25, 2011 at 1:14 am

    Shouldn’t you be more into South American influence due to your ancestry and family history? What is the current clobber popular amongst the Bolivian supporters? I will only wear that from here on out.
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  • 07/09/2016 3:49 PM | 107ist Admin (Administrator)
    Nikki Suydam says:
    Friday, June 24, 2011 at 5:12 pm

    I just wish they’d stop implying that all Timbers fans are young, urban, tech-savvy professionals. They need to start acknowledging us old geezers or get off our lawn, dammit!
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  • 07/09/2016 3:50 PM | 107ist Admin (Administrator)
    Brian T. says:
    Friday, June 24, 2011 at 7:45 pm

    I agree it is hard to make a comparison, but saying it has a “European Atmosphere” is probably the highest compliment because thats what people on the outside view as the mecca of soccer support. The alternative is to be compared to Shittle. *shudders*
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  • 07/09/2016 3:50 PM | 107ist Admin (Administrator)
    Matthew says:
    Saturday, June 25, 2011 at 3:28 am

    I’m a Leeds United supporter, and live in the UK. I’ve been following the Timbers recently. I think the comparisons and distinctions are really interesting.
    For what it’s worth although I enjoy the Premier League to a degree, it can be a sterile corporate place at times and this reflects on the terraces – obviously this is largely due to the introduction of seating and the formation of the PL in 1992. Ordinary working class men and women (particularly) younger fans are being priced out of the game. The atmosphere many associate with football in England is still alive however, lower down the leagues. I would rather Leeds remain in the Championship and have the opportunity to stand on the terraces and the smaller away grounds that pay an extortionate amount of money to go to places like Old Trafford and Stamford Bridge. Unfortunately it seems like the gentrification of the game is beginning to creep further and further down the footballing pyramid, judging from the season ticket prices at Elland Road for the forthcoming season (Ken Bates out).
    No TIFO at games in England? If anything something like this wouldn’t even be noted amongst fans or journalists here. It’s not really part of our culture (Anfield aside). The atmosphere is what it is and it’s definition has been more or less accepted and ingrained over a long period of time. I would be interested to see whether others think the same will be the case in the US?
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  • 07/09/2016 3:50 PM | 107ist Admin (Administrator)
    Lucas Grzybowski says:
    Saturday, June 25, 2011 at 6:57 am

    Mostly I go to Timbers games because I love the Jewish-Italian-American-in-a-letterman-sweater atmosphere.
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  • 07/09/2016 3:51 PM | 107ist Admin (Administrator)
    NW_Lobo says:
    Saturday, June 25, 2011 at 11:07 am

    100% agree and wish that the national media (print and TV) would stop trying to compare what is going on in Portland with the “atmoshpere” at matches in the various top-flight European leagues. I think that the media means well and intends their pieces as complimentary, but to the those that don’t follow the game regularly, comparing what is happening in Portland, Seattle etc. with the negative images we always see regarding hooligans in Europe, these articles can be very misleading and not at all representative of the support groups in Portland or Seattle or Philadelphia.
    Maybe next time they can buy a ticket and experience a Timbers match first hand or talk to supporters in the TA before writing another fluff piece. Just a suggestion from someone who, as indicated above, is not reporter or a professional writer.
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